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cardinalbiggles May 13th, 2003 09:19 AM

:shock: Hot damn, that's gorgeous! :)

JasonA May 13th, 2003 06:46 PM

Nice work man, this ship is truly a classic. And you've done a fantastic job of her too! Its kinda fun coming back to old projects sometimes isn't it? Anyways great work and I hope you consider making some other TOS ships too, even a few federation variants would be cool. The animation is fun btw, you should add a few more views to go with the music a bit more tho.

Although the effects etc were cheesier, I still wish they hadn't started the "Entperise" series and screw up everything in trek... blah blah blah... I can only hope they come to their senses..

:)

Michael_T May 13th, 2003 08:40 PM

You mean when they blow up the NX-01 Voyager style and shove Archer and the gang on a Dadelus?

Scott Gammans May 14th, 2003 08:00 AM

Cardinal and Jason, thanks very much. Yes, it is fun to go back to your old projects... especially when your skills have (hopefully) improved enough to finally do them justice.

My next project will be either an original series Klingon Battlecruiser or the Planet Killer from "The Doomsday Machine"... probably the Klingon D7 since I have the Lincoln Enterprises blueprints. I've completed two major versions of the same Federation starship... it's time to give the Enterprise a worthy adversary for my planned animations!

JasonA May 14th, 2003 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Michael_T
You mean when they blow up the NX-01 Voyager style and shove Archer and the gang on a Dadelus?
Better yet, lets just blow up the NX-01 and end the series. Personally I'd rather see capt Sulu at the con of the Excelsior

Sean Kennedy May 14th, 2003 02:13 PM

I like the new MPEG better! Very cool!
Blow up the NX-01? damn you guys are harsh....

I always blow off the first two seasons of any Trek series because the characters and plots are never wholly believable until at least the third season....

just look at the ifrst two seasons of STTNG, DS9, And Voyager....I only really began to like them when the plots and the characters got interesting.

JasonA May 14th, 2003 03:14 PM

I think all prequels should be blown up
:phaser:

Dennis May 14th, 2003 08:29 PM

I wouldn't give Takei and the "Excelsior" ten minutes of my time. I am enjoying "Enterprise" quite a bit, though. :D

I love the super-sized orthographics, BTW. Just got DSL service the other week, just in time to appreciate them. :)

Scott Gammans May 15th, 2003 04:46 AM

Thanks Dennis! I'm almost finished with the final texturing of the warp nacelles and will be posting updated orthographics this weekend. This is the first time I have used a photoshop program to create texturing maps, so I'll appreciate any critique of the weathering effects when you see them.

seanr May 15th, 2003 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dennis
I wouldn't give Takei and the "Excelsior" ten minutes of my time. I am enjoying "Enterprise" quite a bit, though. :D
BAH!!! Blasphemy!!! :D:D:D:D Enterprise is getting better, and it currently a shade better than Voyager IMHO, but I'd much rather see a series set during the movie era, or shortly thereafter. Maybe an Enterprise-B series (but they'd BETTER reporoduce that bridge EXACTLY as it appeared in the movie or better, not that cheap shazbot they pulled for the "Flashback" Excelsior bridge).

seanr May 15th, 2003 07:18 AM

Jason - could you please email me?:

webolutionary@webolutionary.com

JasonA May 16th, 2003 09:10 AM

Well, each to his own I guess. Some will really dig the new show and thats fine but I'm certainly not one of them. But I kinda dislike most "prequels", they always seem to screw up the continuity of series. well, just MHO of course. Scott, sorry for briefly hijacking your thread.
:D

cardinalbiggles May 16th, 2003 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seanr
Maybe an Enterprise-B series (but they'd BETTER reporoduce that bridge EXACTLY as it appeared in the movie or better, not that cheap shazbot they pulled for the "Flashback" Excelsior bridge).
Amen to that... then again, as much as I dislike Scott Bakula, I don't think I could stand a seven-year Trek series starring Alan Ruck. :D

Scott Gammans May 19th, 2003 10:07 AM

OK, I guess the only way to get my thread back on-topic is to post a new animation! (MPEG-1 format, 800x600, 13.1 MB, 25 seconds)

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente...mation_009.png

The warp engine nacelle texturing is completed and I am now working my way down the pylons, then forward along the secondary hull, up the interconnecting dorsal, and finally the saucer section. The texturing is going MUCH slower than I anticipated, partially because I'm going for an insane level of detail on the texturing maps. You can barely see some of the weathering on the upper side of the port nacelle in this shot, but that's OK; the effect is supposed to be subtle (as opposed to the over-the-top job done on the studio model back in '92).

meshula May 20th, 2003 10:58 PM

That model is really something! Congratulations. How does it compare proportion-wise with Alan Sinclair's drawings?

Scott Gammans May 21st, 2003 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by meshula
That model is really something! Congratulations. How does it compare proportion-wise with Alan Sinclair's drawings?
99.9% accurate--Alan's drawings are the primary source material for this model. The only areas where I think his drawings are slightly off are the shape of the impulse engine housing (which I haven't redone yet but will be slightly rounder on the edges when completed), the geometry of the lower sensor array on the primary hull (mine's slightly larger and taller along the y-axis than shown in his blueprints), and the diameter of some of the circular windows (in some places I think the original windows were smaller, and in some places I think they should be larger). Overall, though, if you were to lay one of my orthographic projections atop the same view in his blueprints, you would see a near-perfect match.

Scott Gammans May 22nd, 2003 10:15 AM

Another little morsel for your entertainment, while I continue to refine the texturing on the model. I call this clip simply, "Uh-oh." (MPEG-1 format, 800x600, 19 seconds, 13.1 MB)

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente..._by_pk_001.jpg

Have a safe and enjoyable Memorial Day weekend, everyone.

Scott Gammans June 3rd, 2003 06:40 AM

Finally... some actual progress!
 
Finally... some actual progress on the model (life has had a nasty habit of intruding on my free time lately... bah!).

The first image shows off the completed warp nacelle texturing, while the second and third images show the work-in-progress secondary hull texturing. Don't worry about the hull plating looking too obvious in the second image; once the under-construction weathering layer has been added, the plating effect will be much more subdued.

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente..._image_020.jpg

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente..._image_021.jpg

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente..._image_022.jpg

http://www.scottgammans.com/cgi_ente..._image_023.jpg

Still on the "to-do" list: finish weathering the secondary hull, texturing the interconnecting dorsal, tweaking the primary hull, and building the "window boxes" behind each porthole. For the last item, I'm experimenting with some methods for building those boxes semi-automagically, so that I don't spend another month building dozens of little boxes by hand (*ugh*).


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