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Jan-Hendrik June 7th, 2005 01:37 PM

TOSish Starbase
 
Hi Folks!

Here's one of my first real attemps in creating something own in Max.

I realy like the good ol' days of TOS and while looking around the internet I realized that's realy hard to find some good TOS-Stations, if you're lucky, you'll find a K7-type station.

Thinkin' of changing this fact someday, I later saw a picture of the news Poket Books Series "Vanguard" and - finaly- a news TOS-station! Inspired by this and the K7 I kicked my lazy butt and got startet.

While building the station I was havyly inspired by the Starbase One Design by The Reverend and the Starbase 11 Design by startrekanimated.com

So, here's what I've got til now:

http://img47.echo.cx/img47/7414/tosstation14co.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/8375/tosstation21gd.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/6531/tosstation39pc.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/1572/tosstation40wf.jpg

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/3094/tosstation59lu.jpg

And finaly a version without the dock, as "standart starbase".

http://img281.echo.cx/img281/5125/tosstation67em.jpg

So, comments and critics are welcome!

Darrell Lawrence June 7th, 2005 01:49 PM

Sweet. Nice variation of the ol K-7!

Jan-Hendrik June 7th, 2005 01:57 PM

Thanks! :)

Jan-Hendrik June 8th, 2005 01:13 AM

Okay, I decided to skip the dock for a while, cause...hm, I think I don't realy like it. ^^

Here are some minor updates:

http://img256.echo.cx/img256/4317/tosstation72wf.jpg

Thomas P June 8th, 2005 05:10 AM

Very nice indeed. I like the dock idea but it does seem to be out of place with the design, maybe it is too big?

skyhawk223 June 8th, 2005 05:39 AM

Nice work for a first try. You even have some decent texturing on it. I like the idea of having an attached spacedock.

Jan-Hendrik June 8th, 2005 05:59 AM

Thanks guys!
The size of the spacedock is my biggest problem and the reason why I deattached it for a while, at least until I find a better version of it.

Here's one good shot of the design, which inspired me to do the station with an attached dock:

http://startrekanimated.com/tas_comic04_05.html


Oh, and here's one of my very first versions of the dock:

http://img9.echo.cx/img9/502/post10110738148323hm.jpg

http://img32.echo.cx/img32/2461/post...38148342dz.jpg

nezhdan June 8th, 2005 09:44 AM

That's really cool, I wish I had half the talent it would take to hunker down and create something like that.

What modelling programs do you use?

Jan-Hendrik June 8th, 2005 11:18 AM

Thanks a lot nezhdan. I'm a beginner and it's realy easier than it maybe looks. Realy. ;)

I'm using 3D Max V6. In my opinion it's the easiest program to start with 3D modeling. All you need is time and some patience.

BTW: Some updates, anyone?

http://img72.echo.cx/img72/563/starbase5sm.jpg

Darrell Lawrence June 8th, 2005 11:38 AM

What ships do you plan on having fit into the dock?

If it's the Enterprise, Bonaventure, etc (you did mention TAS, so I assume you know what the Bonaventure is :biggrin: ) then the dock *does* need to be kinda large....

Jan-Hendrik June 8th, 2005 12:08 PM

The Bonaventure? Of course starfleet's "first" Warpship. ^^

Yeah, the size is bugging me. I think it would be good to have it big enough to carry ships like a Connie or the smaller Bonaventure. But first I have to think about the actual size of the station. I think, the 3 smaller saucers will have the size of a connie-saucer, maybe a bit smaller...

I think, this could be the kind of outpost station that was always mentioned in TOS or in the books. A station away from the inner circle of the Federation, maybe somwhere near the romulan boarder.

Darrell Lawrence June 8th, 2005 12:52 PM

If it's to be super-sized, then the textures should reflect that a well.

Jan-Hendrik June 9th, 2005 02:30 AM

I woke up and looked again at the grids and thought: okay, that doesn't look all right. Let's do it again, but this time with a plan.

Thoughts?

http://img123.echo.cx/img123/1817/topplan4tb.jpg

Darrell Lawrence June 9th, 2005 03:57 AM

For the sheer size of what you're wanting, that text is way too big.

Try this... look at say... the Enterprise D and its text on the saucer. Keep in mind the windows too.

Now imagine your starbase as being twice the size of the Ent-D's saucer... the windows would still be the same size as on the Ent-D's saucer, and the text should be about the same size as the Ent-D's text.

Then build your grid lines based on that.

See if textures like that on your station convey size or not ;)

Jan-Hendrik June 10th, 2005 01:36 PM

Ah, damn I HATE textures. :P To try something different, I made up an new variation of the K, like the one of the comics:

http://img30.echo.cx/img30/2517/deepspaceeleven3hp.jpg

PS: Why is it looking like a bad drawing? I donnot know, I just like it this way ;)


EDIT:

Ah, I almost forgott, we where talking about size, right? I think this is a good way, isn't it?

http://img264.echo.cx/img264/8380/connieinside2iq.jpg

Darrell Lawrence June 10th, 2005 02:28 PM

Ya know... I'd almost be tempted to add a couple of more arms and pods ;)

As for that rendering looking like a drawing... well... That's Max for ya! :biggrin:

skyhawk223 June 11th, 2005 07:36 AM

The drydock looks too long in your latest images. Either too long or not wide/high enough. I like the overall design, though.

arok60 June 11th, 2005 09:36 AM

I like your design.

Darrell Lawrence June 11th, 2005 12:41 PM

...hmmm A better "dock" attached to it might be like the McKinnley Station rather than a drydock....

Jan-Hendrik June 12th, 2005 03:25 AM

Hm, are you thinking of a more "open" kind of dock? Something without theses big panels?

Darrell Lawrence June 12th, 2005 12:33 PM

Something like this-
http://www.trekmeshes.ch/meshes/largethumbs/MCKINLY.JPG

Can be found at our pal Erik Timmermans site- http://www.trekmeshes.ch/

Jan-Hendrik June 12th, 2005 01:36 PM

Hm, I'm not quite sure, if this would work in TOS...

Darrell Lawrence June 12th, 2005 01:53 PM

Make it TOS style ;)

General Phoenix June 12th, 2005 03:33 PM

Wouldn't be too dificult to make it TOS-era, at least from a design standpoint. Just make the crew-occupied areas more cylindrical (could use parts of your current model for that, really), and make the support arms look a bit more low-tech. Perhaps make them extend straight down from the external ring rather than curving inward like the TNG version.

Jan-Hendrik June 13th, 2005 02:12 AM

Hm, yeah, I think I'll give it a try, as soon as I'm back from work tonight.
BTW: Do you guys like wires?

http://img190.echo.cx/img190/566/wirek7m3lm.jpg

skyhawk223 June 14th, 2005 06:58 AM

Yes, we like wires as well.

Jan-Hendrik June 14th, 2005 09:16 PM

Okay, right now I'm working on a TOS version of McKinley, I hope tomorrow I'll be able to show you something. Good lord, why do I always have to work, when I've got a creativity boost?

Darrell Lawrence June 15th, 2005 02:37 AM

I am so looking forward to this.

I want to see this model project completed ;)

Jan-Hendrik June 15th, 2005 12:44 PM

Me too. :walmart:

skyhawk223 June 15th, 2005 01:13 PM

Me too!


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