okies
(I can't believe this crap) ... got a Geforce 4 .it's got TV in/out
so far so good.
the TV out, works perfectly

the TV in.. works I think. I think? why? because they supply no software! only the drivers!
Dscaler won't see a tuner this way... been scouring the net for something (anything) that will let me watch TV on the PC....

Geforce
(other than this I love my Geforce 4800)