German Jetfighters of WW2

[ulimann644]

Aside from my SF-Meshes I plan to build a few german Jetfighters.
I´ll begin with a Dive-Bomber that never was commissioned by the Luftwaffe because the War was over, before it was ready.

The Henschel HS-132
Reference-Picture:

Technical Data:

Crew 1 Pilot
Length 8,90 m
Weight 7,19 m
Hight 2,95 m
Mass 3400 kg
Max. Speed 780 km/h in 6000 m without Bomb
650 km/h in 6000 m with Bomb
Ceiling 10.500 m
Range 776 km in 4000 m, 1114 km in 10.050 m
Engines One BMW 003A-1
Commissioned Planned for July 1945

I´ve build the Basics today, just to see, how it looks like. Hope I can create the Engine tomorrow.

HS-132 Mesh:

[evil_genius_180]

Nice start on the mesh. That's certainly an interesting design. It's not one I'm familiar with, but with all of the innovation going on all over the world and in Germany in particular during WWII, I'm not familiar with every design.

[gmd3d]

excellent start... I have seen this on a documentary about German innovation during WW2..

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by evil_genius_180

Nice start on the mesh. That's certainly an interesting design. It's not one I'm familiar with, but with all of the innovation going on all over the world and in Germany in particular during WWII, I'm not familiar with every design.

Many thanx.

I´m a very great Fan of Military-Planes (but not a Fan of War or Warfare!!) and one of my hobby´s is Military-History.
I have three (very massive ) books about Planes (also with helicopters and civil designs from all over the world) from 1903 - 2000/2006/2012.

I was already fascinated from planes and the APOLLO-Project, as I was a little boy (born 1966 - so the first live-pictures from the moon are one of my oldest - and most intensive - memories...).

Originally Posted by Taranis

excellent start... I have seen this on a documentary about German innovation during WW2..

Thank you.

I´ve seen a documentation in 2012 where Grumman had build a 1:1-Model of the HORTEN H IX / GOTHA GO-229 (but in all probability: HORTEN HO-229) for Radar-Tests. They found out, that the Allies have had only a two-minute-radarwarning if this plane approaching in low-level-flight.

I want to build the HO-229 later, plus the HEINKEL HE-162 and the worldwide first commissioned Jetfighter, the MESSERSCHMITT ME-262.
After that maybe I build the Jetbombers ARADO AR-234 and JUNKERS JU-287 (but certainly not this year ).

An interestig aspect of the HS-132 is, that the Pilot should fly this Plane lying at the bulge, so this Plane could fly 12g-curves, without the Pilot lose consciousness.

in the year 1946 Edgar P. Jacobs used this concept for the Tigershark-Fighters in his comic: "The secret of the Swordfish" Volume I - III (published 1950 - 1953).

[gmd3d]

Originally Posted by ulimann644

An interestig aspect of the HS-132 is, that the Pilot should fly this Plane lying at the bulge, so this Plane could fly 12g-curves, without the Pilot lose consciousness.

really ... I would like to have seen that documentary

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by Taranis

really ... I would like to have seen that documentary

The HS-132 was not a part of this documentary.
The theoretical breaking load of the HS-132 should be 25g.

From the medically point, 12g where doable in this position for the pilot - in a normal sitting position not.

See also:
--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_Hs_132

[Tenement]

Reminds me of the great flight sim "Secret weapons of the Luftwaffe." Very nice work indeed.

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by Tenement

Reminds me of the great flight sim "Secret weapons of the Luftwaffe." Very nice work indeed.

Yeah... with BoB my fav flight-sim in the early 90´s. (On my highly tuned Amiga-2000) I also liked to fly the P-80 and the P-38 in this Sim - the P-38 was great to handle in Dogfights.

Little Update:

I have the basic-hull of the Engine now - it needs a few little modifications, before I can begin the inner parts of it...

[evil_genius_180]

That looks good. The transition between the parts looks pretty smooth. Did you merge the top part and fuselage or leave them as separate pieces?

[ulimann644]

For the moment the top part and the fuselage are seperate pieces.
The plan is to merge them when the engine and the fuselage are ready and check, how it looks like.

[gmd3d]

Looks good. very good imo

[ulimann644]

Thanks.
Unhappy with the first try I´ve modeled the engine new. By a closer look at the rear-part between the Engine and the fuselage I´ve seen, that it´s more the part of the HE-162, so I have to modify this the next days.

Here are two pics of the actual status:

[gmd3d]

Again nice work

any chance of a wire frame to see how its constructed

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by Taranis

Again nice work

any chance of a wire frame to see how its constructed

No prob.

[gmd3d]

ah that looks good.. very clean

[evil_genius_180]

Looking great. Like Ger said, the wires look good.

[ulimann644]

Thanks.
I´ve changed the Part between the Fuselage and the engine, but it´s not exactly that, what the pic with the Prototype shows.
Otherwise it was a Prototype, and nobody knows if the second and the third plane have looked like this first one.

I´m not sure if I leave it so or if I make this part new for the moment.

[evil_genius_180]

I like it. I think it looks better than what you had before.

That's an interesting point about prototypes. If they never make it to production, you never know what the finished product would have looked like.

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by evil_genius_180

I like it. I think it looks better than what you had before.

That's an interesting point about prototypes. If they never make it to production, you never know what the finished product would have looked like.

True.
I habe another pic (Fanboy-Design), where this section more looks like my actual design:

Nevermind - I´ve worked a little bit at the inner part of the jet propulsion.
For a better look at the blades, without shadows:

And this is how it looks like with shadows:

[evil_genius_180]

Looking good. That other model is nice too.

[Auditor]

Very cool. Nice design. Good textures. Sweet.

[ulimann644]

Originally Posted by Auditor

Very cool. Nice design. Good textures. Sweet.

Thank you.

I haven´t used textures since now...
The green plane is not mine, see credits (I didn´t know the real name of "MFHR") - it just shoud demonstrate how the upper fuselage looks like at other peoples work.

[Auditor]

Sorry too small on my phone. Ur mesh is coming together nicely.