Where 3DG stands...

...but its in your name.. lol..

Valiant.

lol...looks like an MCGI invasion over here

hopefully I'll be able to post alot more now that classes have started again. I'll be out to pester you all

Nice logo there Mike...interesting direction compared to the current one.

[moovok]

I must admit, I like the new logo, it's simple, YET, it has that graphic like quality that the other one (no offence Rick) seems dull and bland.

Can we have it? Can we? Can we?

I like the arrows as well, I can see the index.html page being just that image in the middle of the screen, so people click it, like it's going in the direction of newness and stuff (sounds better in my head).

I like it too, as a temporary upgrade before the Big Change that I'm sure will come very soon...

Oh, well. On the bad side of life, I'm going through some emotional relational stuff at the moment, which has basically wasted my work on everything. (This post being a sort of update on how my work on the website engine is going...). I'm attempting to get going on it again now. Needs tweaking and stuff, and some features that I still haven't managed to get working right... mostly there though.

Proximo, if there is a big change coming is it worthwhile completing a new site?

As I mentioned earlier, surely everyone should be deciding exactly how you want to progress before wasting time working on logo's, sites etc that may well be radically changed or even abandoned.

Guys, if you really want this change in direction to succeed try not to go off half cocked. Work out a detailed plan as a team, don't all go running off designing logo's site layouts etc until some form of final plan has been put into place. Otherwise a lot of effort is likely to be wasted.

Rick has put forward a proposal for a new direction so how about discussing that first? In the other post he put forward his plan and asked for comments but to date little has been discussed. I'd focus on that first otherwise everything might end up going in cirlces yet again with nothing significant being accomplished.

Richard.

[Chris B]

Ricktu, It appears to me too that the discussion about 3dg has allready stopped for some obscure reason.

we are not even halfway there yet, come on ppl...

Well there is one thing i would love to see change here is getting rid of the and Grey backgrounds.... We should have a various BG themes under our User GP to see how we view 3DG... give them some choices on how they should see 3DG and they will come.

Ricktu, I'm making a template-driven CMS. The designing is up to whoever uses it.

I think the biggest change needs to be a means of collaboration between people, either through the forums of through... something. A way of formalising agreements to work together, or perhaps a means to easilly and securely transmit information to each other through the site. Or something like that.

We need to be talking big features here, now. Big ideas. The details can be sorted out later and slotted in, but we need the big framework for people to work around. What do we do? Why do we do it? What benefit can we give ourselves beyond the satisfaction of seeing a great production and a nifty forum? Will it make money? Will it do charity work? Will it promote and train upcoming talent?

Out of those, the biggest question is Why. Befor eyou have a How and a WHat, you need Qhy to motivate you. Now for me, the motivation is clear. I make the software, I get paid for it. For the rest of you it appears, to me at least, that you aren't sure of your Why. You think you know, but you haven't really thought about it. Time to break out of your little circle and start thinking big. This place could become something amazing, if we all take a moment to think about what we want it toe be. Even if it's just a little thing like a great place to meet new friends, it's Big because in cases like this, Big is defined as what motivates you to do more.

My two cents...

Originally posted by Proximo
Ricktu, I'm making a template-driven CMS. The designing is up to whoever uses it.

Ahhh right ...sorry... I didn't know thats what you were doing. I thought you were working on a new 3dg site. My bad.

Although to do properly what Rick is talking about will require a specialised setup. Nothing difficult to code but if it's to be done properly a lot more discussion is needed. As has been just stated. The WHY needs to be finalised before thinking about HOW

Richard.

[General Phoenix]

My opinion as to the WHY...

Most sites like ours seem to be known only to a few people, and they don't seem to be much more than a "hangout" for artists. I want 3DG to become a group that actually produces something on a regular basis - I'd like us to be known outside of the small niche of internet artists. It would be great if our short films could end up on a DVD shelf somewhere, so the occasional movie fan would see something with our names attached. Or one of our stories could become a graphic novel, drawn and illustrated by some of our wonderful Photoshop artists.

The way I see it, there are plenty of skilled people here who should be getting more exposure - simply posting the odd image here and there on a few discussion boards isn't going to accomplish that. But getting your name "out there" in some form could actually lead to something big.

Originally posted by General Phoenix
My opinion as to the WHY...

Most sites like ours seem to be known only to a few people, and they don't seem to be much more than a "hangout" for artists.

mhhh that in itself isn't wrong.
Agoraphobia was just a hangout, it was a great big site.

But.... well yeah it's not 3d

Originally posted by Proximo
I like it too, as a temporary upgrade before the Big Change that I'm sure will come very soon...

Oh, well. On the bad side of life, I'm going through some emotional relational stuff at the moment, which has basically wasted my work on everything. (This post being a sort of update on how my work on the website engine is going...). I'm attempting to get going on it again now. Needs tweaking and stuff, and some features that I still haven't managed to get working right... mostly there though.

*HUGS*