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February 2nd, 2002, 07:26 PM
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wooo!
Thanks very much for going and giving us some pics.
When you do go back I'm still curious about those areas I mentioned before.
The shuttle bay thingie you shot looks like there is nothing there. But if you look at this page http://members.aol.com/IDICPage2/84Enterprise2.html and look at the third photo down, it looks as if there is something to the immediate left and right of the clamshell, between the clamshell and the engineering hull's skin. So I guess there is no such structure now right?
And the impulse bar helps, But can you get the top view? Is the ceiling mirrored by chance? Or can you get up there?
Damn I envy ya!!!
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February 2nd, 2002, 07:36 PM
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I see what you mean, but the structures in question (also in the fourth photo) don't match the surrounding area at all -- they're much lighter and would have stood out in any previous photography of the model (including on the stage). There are other photos at McCullars' site and at Phil Broad's that were taken prior to the 1985 exhibit that don't show anything in that area. I don't know what they are -- maybe exposed fastenings of some sort?
Bear in mind that up until Miarecki's restoration in the early 90s there'd never been a good attempt to research the model and to restore it accurately to the appearence it had during its lifetime as an active photographic minature. I talked to Ed and to the curator who worked with him on the restoration, Ken Isbell (who interviewed Richard Datin extensively and collected a lot of photo materials from him) and I'm convinced that with the exception of the *intensity* of the painted "weathering", the model as it appears now is as accurate a reconstruction as can be acheived.
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February 2nd, 2002, 07:43 PM
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Ah! Thanks for clearing that up!
I swear this ship plays tricks with ya. Its out to confound anyone who wants to be accurate.
I'm just glad the model is still around. Unlike the Romulan and the 4 footer. Paramount was so frustrated with Roddenberry they easily could have destroyed the model afterwards, instead of just denying him the right to it.
After all, all the 2001 models were destroyed on Kubrick's order.
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February 2nd, 2002, 08:55 PM
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thankies Dennis.
I'm pretty familiar with the idic photos. They show the impulse bar. But not enough to do detailed accurate work.
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:10 PM
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Formerly "Warrior" The Last Starfighter Owner
Join Date: Jun 1999
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Awesome, Dennis. More ref, the merrrier.
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:12 PM
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Unfortunately that's probably the best look you can get at it with the current display set-up. My attempt didn't come out that well.
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:17 PM
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Formerly "Warrior" The Last Starfighter Owner
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Sounds like you need to slip them a few... bunch... whole lotta $20s... :laugh:
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"Don't worry, miss. I've got you." "You got me? Who's got you???" - from Superman- The Movie
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make." - from Shrek
" If not for TOS, then there would be no Trek movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'. "
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"The art of scape goating interests me." - Dauntless
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Warrior
Sounds like you need to slip them a few... bunch... whole lotta $20s... :laugh:
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Yeah, it's really just the right part of the decade to be trying to bribe guards in a government facility in Washington, D.C...
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:22 PM
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Formerly "Warrior" The Last Starfighter Owner
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Rylos
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That's why I went from a few to a lotta
Tell them the truth: You're doing it for a CGI "company" (3DG) and you need measurements and close up photos, and you have to do it there since they won't let you borrow it like they did the Refit for F.I. :laugh:
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"Don't worry, miss. I've got you." "You got me? Who's got you???" - from Superman- The Movie
"Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make." - from Shrek
" If not for TOS, then there would be no Trek movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager or 'Enterprise'. "
"Legends never die... They just get new Captains."
"The art of scape goating interests me." - Dauntless
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February 2nd, 2002, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
Yeah, it's really just the right part of the decade to be trying to bribe guards in a government facility in Washington, D.C...
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BWAHAHAHAHAA! LOL
Well... just say you need to do a security inspection on the top of the ship
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March 3rd, 2002, 11:16 PM
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Master Pilot
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 120
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Simply awesome! Some of these details (particularly the closeup of the nacelle aft ends) have been shrouded in mystery. Thanks! I wish I had had these photos when I built my mesh.
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