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November 11th, 2008, 06:09 PM
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New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Spoilers: http://denofgeek.com/movies/144620/s..._reviewed.html
The new design: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1448..._revealed.html
I am getting less and less "impressed" with this each time I hear/see something new about it.
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November 11th, 2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
I having a hard time making sense of all these excerpted teases... I can't really tell if they make any connection to Kirk's later (canon) assignment to the Farragut or if they if they're just going to let a cadet begin assuming command of a starship.
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November 11th, 2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
That ugly thing is all over the forums. I was just trying not to hurl all over my monitor & keyboard while looking at the image on another forum.
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November 12th, 2008, 01:41 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Man I will give that a mis .. The cast change is one thing .. but that redesign is a travesty of biblical proportions ......
the very people they want are old fans .. ie Me and you. and the take the Big E .. and turn it in to ERRRAHHH!!!!!! .. (INSERT WORD HERE)
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November 12th, 2008, 08:59 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Blows serious chunks -
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November 12th, 2008, 09:43 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Redesigning the ship is one thing (I guess most people would have guessed I'd say that ![Wink](https://www.3dgladiators.net/forums/newsmilies/wink.gif) ) but you have to do it tastefully. Gabe's and Madkoifish's redesigned Enterprises are tastefully done and you can at least identify with them and see elements of the original ship in them. There's nothing in that movie design that came from the original ship (except maybe the general design but even that has drastically changed.) The saucer is about straight out of TMP and the secondary hull and nacelles are just plain FUGLY and are like nothing done on any Trek.
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November 12th, 2008, 10:26 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
NO! NO! NO,NONONONO!!!!!
WTF?!!?
NO!
With all of the other 'reimagined' versions out there, why did they go with 'that' design?!
Geeze, once again I have to say there are people here who have made ships better than that ...that... thing.
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November 12th, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
It looks like J.J. gave a piece of paper and some crayons to a very young child and said "here, draw me a picture of the Enterprise" and then used that as the base for the design. I'll say one thing for it, though, it fits with that FUGLY bridge set. They're both so unfreakingbelievably horrible that they have to go together.
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November 12th, 2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
It took me a while of thinking, and now I have a better handle on why I am torn over this model.
The execution is professional, I have no complaints about that.
My feeling is that it seems to represent several different designs kind of bashed together. The seemingly TOS saucer section doesn't really match the STNG secondary hull and the ENT nacelles.
Are they trying to appease the fans? or just be "cool" ? or something else?
It's kinda weird being jerked in several directions at once.
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November 12th, 2008, 11:17 PM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
I'm trying to like it but I can't get past the "neck" or nacelle pylons. They're just fugly. Plus, the deflector dish is too far forward giving the front of the engineering hull a pregnant look. And there doesn't appear to be much room in the back for a shuttlebay. (I'm just glad that Tallguy over at 3DSciFi pointed out that the fugly thing on the side is in fact a shuttle, so that part actually makes more sense now.) The nacelles are actually kinda cool and the saucer is a basic TMP saucer. I just can't get past that engineering hull, it's all whacked out and that has nothing to do with how the original looked. And I even like redesigns, I just don't like this one.
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November 13th, 2008, 05:55 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Looking at it again .. looks to me like the Enterprise blended with something from the Jetsons
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November 13th, 2008, 06:08 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taranis
Looking at it again .. looks to me like the Enterprise blended with something from the Jetsons
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Looking at it again... It looks to me like the Enterprise blended with something from the 'out house'.
:laugh:
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November 13th, 2008, 08:19 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fretslayer
Looking at it again... It looks to me like the Enterprise blended with something from the 'out house'.
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what a stinker :laugh::laugh:
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November 13th, 2008, 08:39 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
I'm serious... I really don't like it.
Maybe it'll look good from some other angle but from this shot - No Sir, I don't like it.
I've seen two reimagined versions of the ship online that smoke this 'official' one.
One them is found right here!
For the first time in a Trek movie I'll be hoping there is a scene where it gets blown to bits.
:laugh:
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November 13th, 2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
yeah that a good one .. or the other could be Madkoifish
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November 13th, 2008, 09:03 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
The other could be this .. bot excellent models that keep the sprite of the classic ship
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November 13th, 2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
Yah, that is a beautiful mesh as well.
Either of these ships would have worked much better (IMO) than the one they're going to use.
Oh well, that's why they get paid the big bucks and I don't.
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November 14th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
I'm sure this is nowhere near being official (that crap we've already seen probably is, unless that was an earlier version and they're frakking with us) but someone posted this not-too-hateful revision at the Phase II forums. The engineering hull has been beefed up and doesn't stick out so far forward, plus it has proper stripes and red bussards. This is a model I wouldn't mind seeing in the movie. It's a lot better than the "official" release photo, IMO.
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November 14th, 2008, 10:45 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
With the bussards being red the nacells have the look like the rear end of some sort of 52 plymouth or something.
Like one of those cars you see in the family photo album from the mid 50s.
So I guess they were going for a retro-car look?
I saw on one post somebody called it the 'Edsleprise' and had little thumbnail images of how this part and that part looked like old cars. I'm not sure if it was funny or sad but it seemed like they were on to something.
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November 14th, 2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
go this from http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/
I still done like it I have to say .. its just not the enterprise for me
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November 14th, 2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
When I see that Enterprise...
I fart in it's general direction!
If they don't redesign it, I will taunt it a second time!
Thttttpt!
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November 14th, 2008, 07:12 PM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
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November 15th, 2008, 05:25 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
I got this from the scene on that clip following the link you posted Kai..
look more like the orignal one than what been posted
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November 15th, 2008, 06:26 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
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November 15th, 2008, 07:27 AM
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Re: New Enterprise revealed (Spoiler)
thanks Kai ..
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